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Entry · catalog no. 1142

pop dip and spin

/ /pɑp dɪp ən ˈspɪn/ /pop DIP uhn SPIN
noun phrase · Harlem and greater New York ballroom scene; now worldwide via the ball circuit · 1980s
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Pop, dip and spin names the three things a voguer was doing at the start: popping the arms into shapes on the beat, dropping into a dip, and spinning out of it. Before the dance was advertised as vogue on a ball flyer, the category was called Pop, Dip and Spin, and the name still describes the style now marketed as old way — hard angles, symmetry, poses landed exactly on the music, arms held in clean lines, competitors locking with each other through a battle. The dip is the specific move: the voguer falls backward to the floor with one leg extended and one tucked, landing flat on the back on the beat. In the ballroom scene it is a dip. It is not a death drop, and it is not a shablam.
She walked pop dip and spin the way it was walked in '88 — every hand on the beat, and the dip landed right on the crash.
Origin & Attribution
Vogue came out of the Harlem ball scene in the 1970s, among Black and Latino gay and trans people, and is generally credited to Paris Dupree. Jamal Milan of the House of Milan, an in-scene participant from 1987, records that Pop, Dip and Spin was the category's original name and that around 1989 and 1990 ball organizers began advertising the same style as old way to separate the earlier generation from younger competitors who had introduced extreme stretch; the descriptive name gave way to the retrospective one. Death drop is an outsider label. It arrived through the drag world and mass television — So You Think You Can Dance and America's Best Dance Crew from 2009, then RuPaul's Drag Race — and ballroom figures including Dashaun Wesley of the House of Lanvin, Twiggy Pucci Garçon and Jack Mizrahi have said publicly and repeatedly that the move is a dip. Shablam is likewise a corruption: the ballroom exclamation is shawam, credited to Jack Mizrahi, and it is a hype cue shouted into the move, not the move's name. Note that the "original name" claim rests on one named in-scene witness rather than a dated primary document; a pre-1989 ball flyer would settle it.
1987
The category is already called Pop, Dip and Spin when Jamal Milan enters the ballroom scene
1990
Ball flyers begin advertising the style as "old way," displacing the original name
2018
Ballroom figures publicly correct "death drop" and "shablam" in the press as Drag Race spreads both
Region of origin
West
Midwest
N.East
South
Nationwide
Harlem and greater New York ballroom scene; now worldwide via the ball circuit · 1980s
Spoken by
Ballroom community members, voguers, house members
$POPDIPThe Record · cultural traction
Rising
39 yrs
ahead of the mainstream
42/100
peak cultural energy
Introduced to English by the culture — logged here before the mainstream caught on.
Cultural usage — the recordMainstream search interest
First used
1987
in the culture
Cultural energy indexed from documented usage, search interest, and citation frequency. The recorded date is the archive’s permanent point of record.
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Citations & Sources
Jamal Milan, "The History of Vogue," jamalmilan.com, 9 September 2017 — first-person account by a ballroom icon active from 1987
essay · firsthand
Mikelle Street, "It's Neither a Death Drop Nor a Shablam: Celebrating the Art of 'The Dip,'" Hornet, 1 February 2018 — interviews Dashaun Wesley and Jason Rodriguez
news · reported
Mikelle Street, "Dear RuPaul: Stop Letting People Say 'Death Drop' on Drag Race," Out, 5 April 2019
news · reported
Barry Popik, "Shablam (dance move)," The Big Apple, 18 December 2022 — dated citation file tracking death drop, shablam, shawam and dip from December 2008 forward
reference · lexicographic
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